Hoffa-Hall Have Pollsters Ask if Healthcare Should be Renegotiated at UPS

July 10, 2013: Hoffa and Hall are so out of touch with rank and file Teamsters, they have hired a telemarketing company to ask UPS Teamsters what it will take to settle the contract!

Research Center in Zeeland Michigan is making the calls to a sample of UPS Teamsters from across the country. 

Here’s the most interesting question that Hoffa and Hall had the telemarketers ask:   “Would it be advisable for the union to reopen the master agreement and renegotiate the health care?”  

Hoffa and Hall have told local officials to lie to members and that it is “impossible” to renegotiate healthcare. Now their own survey asks members about doing just that!

Ever the politicians, Hoffa and Hall had the pollsters ask what you think of each of them. 

Another question asks about who is your most credible source of information. The first choice given is TDU!

Credible source of information? We’re sure Hoffa and Hall won’t get a high score on that one.

This survey is paid for with your dues money. So will Hoffa and Hall release the results to the members? Will they even share the survey results with local union officers? 

One question asks if members vote No on the second vote, would you be willing to consider a strike?

The survey is very thorough, and takes nearly 20 minutes. If you get a call, be sure to give them some good material.

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Francisco Calderon replied on

I Was Very Disappointed In The Way This Contract Was negotiated You Are supposed To negotiate Good Terms For All Members, I Feel This Was Not. And To Throw More Dirt In The Wound Not All Members Who Are Affected By This Contract They Did Not Get Their Say Like They Should. I Did Not Get My Say And Am Very Angered By The Ones Who Are Representing Us. Please renegotiating This Contract. Especially The Health benefits

Daniel replied on

You are having trouble running the pension why do you think you can do a better job running healthcare I don't think that you should be running the. The pension. Or health care.

STEVE CLOWER replied on

Instead of a telemarketing firm, HIRE A LAW FIRM THAT IS EXPERIENCED IN MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT WILL WORK FOR US!

It is clear that hoffa and hall don't know what they are doing. 

On the conference call they said they wanted $15 for new hires. They settled for $10 and got rid of the $1 after 90 days ?? They were proud of this ??

They changed the progression from 3 to 4 years??

A step down in healthcare??

A giant gap between part timers and drivers??

WHY DO THEY GIVE IN WHEN UPS IS MAKING RECORD PROFITS???

HIRE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND  STAND UP TO UPS AND GET WHATS FAIR.

We are making UPS making a ton of money, we deserve better.

Eddie Byrd replied on

Rumor floating around that their was a meeting set and UPS didn't show up,is that true? If UPS is not willing to negotiate wouldn't that call for a strike vote?

Local 236 replied on

Once again instead of being there for the members Hoffa & Hall take the sellout route.. What we need to do is cut Hoffa off from buying votes in the hubs from people who won't be here through the a contract.. Hoffa & Hall are like most politicians they go to the highest bidder which in this case is UPS.. If we don't get Hoffa out there we are gonna end up with his bed mate Hall.. After we vote in a good contract lets keep this momenteum going to run those idiots out of office.. 

Robert Pope replied on

I am a teamster in the local 480 .I was told today 7.11.13  that the contract was passed that like only 556 out of 2000 somethin members voted is this true?im as mad as hell if it is .i voted hell no! Local 480 Nashville ,TN

Jeff McLeod replied on

Tell me where, in this hole-laiden language that was "won" by our fearless leaders, are there any substantial gains for workers that work for a company that made incredible gains, amidst a faltering economy?

There are none. For every "gain" that anyone can list, I can list 5 losses (aka givebacks). We can't just list the gains and say it was "successful", while we ignoring the great losses.

The recurring issues I've been fighting for for over 20 years, well, NOT ONE of those issues has been settled. Not one. And these are basic issues, such as supervisors working, seniority, etc - rudimentary things that need to be settled once and for all, so that we can move on to even larger issues.

For our leaders to then take it one step further and sell our healthcare down the river, all the while saying that we "won't pay $90, we won't pay $9, we won't pay 9 cents" for our healthcare is ludicrous. I encourage that if you have to pay more than 9 cents for your healthcare at any point, send the Teamsters a bill for the difference, and include that quote at the top of your "invoice". It's what I'm going to do.

Then to "bargain" for the harassment language - really? I'm still trying to figure out just how long we spent "bargaining" for that ridiculous language. My understanding was that since the union came out prior to negotiations and said that they wouldn't move forward until supervisor harassment was addressed, well, I thought it was a fairly important issue. I encourage you to look at the language and see if you think the harassment language seems like something that was covered in detail, with great work.

Settling is not the same as negotiating. Our leadership SETTLED, hoping that a small number of workers would vote, betting that the larger percentage of those votes would be "yes" votes.

People aren't stupid and they're catching on. The truth can set people free, which is why our leadership is caught between a rock and a hard place. I, for one, don't think they've been truthful. In fact, they've lied to us multiple times.

Get back to the bargaining table and remember, YOU WORK FOR US.

Stop worrying about getting new members and take care of the ones you already have, and your membership will grow without you having to push.

frank replied on

WE R GOING TO VOTE NO!!! UNTIL WE GET A CONTRACT WITH REAL TEETH!!! SO U BETTER GET IN THAT RING READY TO STRIKE!!

michael Dressel replied on

We voted NO, but now it's silent. You can hear a rain drop hit the floor so to speak. I'm not sure why we didn't have another one on the table to counter with a NO vote. Talk about being unprepared. This is how you negotiate, you don't take the first offer.....Plus there are a ton of rumors flying around and no one really knows what to expect after 7-31-13. I feel like the union sold us out anyway.